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NOTES AND QUERIES. tn s. i. MAY u, 1910.

ROGER HOLLAND. Of what family was Roger Holland, whose daughter Thomasine married John Carew of Anthony, Cornwall, Sheriff of that county 6 Henry VIII. ? Where can a printed pedigree of the said Roger Holland be found ?

Replies direct will be esteemed a favour. FRANCIS H. RELTON. 9, Broughton Road, Thornton Heath.

SILVER = MARSHALL. Information is asked about a Silver-Marshall marriage between 1730 and 1786. Who were the parties ? No such marriage is mentioned in G. W. Marshall's ' Miscellanea Mares - calliana.' (Mrs.) J. MORTON.

23, Ampthill Square, N.W.

SAMUEL HART. In the biography of Solomon Alexander Hart, R.A., in the ' D.N.B. 1 his father Samuel is referred to as a mezzotint engraver mentioned by Bromley in his catalogue, 1793. I have looked care- fully through Bromley, but failed to find any mention of him. From a note made by me many years ago it seems that he engraved the portrait of his great-grandfather Abraham Hart, a quack of Plymouth (see ante, p. 332). I should like to known of any other engravings by Samuel Hart. ISRAEL SOLOMONS.

118, Sutherland Avenue, W.

"THE PETER BOAT AND DOUBLET."

(11 S. i. 262.).

MAY I add a note or two ? The patron saint of the Fishmongers' Company was St. Peter, and the church more especially connected with them was that of St. Peter in Cornhill, of which the Chantry Book bears record that every person of the fraternity was ' ' ones in euery yere ayens the f est of Seint Peter and Poule " to have the livery, either " hole clothing or elles hodyng," and that on the festival they were to appear in the same " liverie M at St. Peter's, Cornhill, and there hear a solemn mass in the worship of God and St. Peter. The early books of the Company having been destroyed in the Great Fire, it is now impossible to state whether or no the livery comprised a " doublet " ; but it does not seem probable that it should have done so.

The Stockfishmongers had another chapel, built by them as the south aisle of St. Michael's, Crooked Lane, and this was known as "the Fishmongers'- Chapel," or "the chappeU of St. Peter and St. Sebastian."

At Queenhithe, the early rival to Billings- gate, there was the ' ' Ecclesia Sancti Petri supra Thamisiam," which is mentioned in the ' Liber Custumarum,' fo. 180A. There were also St. Peter-le*Poer and St. Peter ad Vincula in the Tower, so that there were plenty of places where the fishermen could worship their patron saint.

Riley states (Glossary to the * Liber Custumarum *) that

" ' Peterman ' was a term applied to a class of fishermen on the Thames, and at Gravesend they are still so called. A ' peter-boat,' also, is a boat built sharp alike at either end."

On fo. 67b of the * Liber Custumarum l is an ordinance as to the dimensions of the meshes of nets to be used for taking smelts in the Thames : " Ceo est lordenement qe les bone gent de la Pessonerie Ount ordyne des Reyes " ; and amongst the various nets specified the name of " peteresnet ' ? occurs :

"Item, ilia un autre manere de reyes qe hom ap'ele peteresnet de .ij. pou} large & nent plus estreyt} : et irra tut Ian fors en la seyson qe lem prent smelt."

This Riley translates :

"Item, there is another manner of net which people call ' petersnet,' [the meshes of which are] two inches wide, and not more narrow ; and it shall go on all the year, except in the season when they take smelts."

JOHN HODGKIN.

The Rope-makers do not appear among the incorporated City Companies, or the device of the Peter boat, if not of the doublet, might be sought as likely to occur in their arms. The boat, however (another instance of which occurs in the modern sign of a rope- maker at 153, Fenchurch Street, in stone relief), was probably borrowed for the sign- board of the roper from the arms of the Watermen's Company, where it is repre- sented as a boat shaped alike at both ends, being thus propelled either bow or stern foremost. Possibly this build is identical originally with the boat used by the Thames waterman, for I think in representations of the arms of that fraternity the vessel is so shaped. It certainly is in one old illustra- tion of these arms in my possession. Both the watermen and the fishermen would be dependent upon the industry of the roper.

The "petresnet," used by the Thames " petermen, ?i was made with meshes two inches wide, and no less, except in the smelt season ('Liber Albus,* 1861, p. 332), and is represented on the signs and stationery of William Good & Son. of 47 and 48, King William Street, and Samuel Tull & Co.