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into a Norman by M. Leopold Delisle, who mistook " Totenais " for a form of Toeni (Monthly Review, No. 9, p. 97). The name Alfred also occurs in Normandy; e.g., among the witnesses to a charter of Duke Richard II. (?A.D. 1026) is an Alfred the Vicomte "Alveredus vicecomes** ('Calen- dar of Documents preserved in France,' No. 702).

Possibly the names Alvary and Alvery owe their origin to a mistranslation of Alveredus, the true equivalent of the Latin form having been forgotten.

G. H. WHITE.

Lowes toft.

ROBERT PALTOCK, THE AUTHOR OF 4 PETER WILKINS ' (10 S. xii. 286). All that appears to be known of Paltock will be found in an article by Mr* W. Roberts on

197-202 (1890). Paltock's authorship only came to light by accident in 1835, though
 * Peter Wilkins l in The Bookworm, vol. iii.

Mr. A. H. Bullen was unable to add to the obtainable information when he edited a reprint in 1890; and Mr. Roberts concludes that Paltock was of Cornish origin, and may be the Robert Paltock who was buried .at Ryme Church, Dorset, in 1767.
 * Peter Wilkins * was first published in 1750.

W. B. H.

CHILDREN WITH THE SAME CHRISTIAN NAME (10 S. xii. 365 ; 11 S. i. 35, 79, 112). In Sir Maxwell Lyte's ' Calendar of the Manuscripts at St. Paul's ' in the Ninth Report of the Historical MSS. Commission, p. 23, " Master Richard, Richard, and Richard, brothers," are named among the witnesses to a grant by the Dean and Chapter in or near 1170. On p. 12 we have " Ricardo Ruffo et altero Ricardo fratribus." The two are also named as witnesses to a grant to the church of St. Helen, about 1140, at p. 64.

W. J. LOFTIE.

Savilc Club.

There is an instance in the family of Lord 'Gray of Scotland of children by the same father and mother, and living at the same time, bearing the same Christian name. The one was Patrick, 5th Lord Gray, eldest son, born 1538, died 1608, the other Sir Patrick Gray of Invergowrie, sixth son, who dii'd 1606. Both were children of Patrick (Jray of Buttergask, 4th Lord Gray, who died 1584, by his wife Marion, daughter of James, 4th Lord Ogilvy of Airlie (see vol. iv. of ' The Scots Peerage ').

Patrick, 4th Lord Gray, was the eldest son of Gilbert Gray of Buttergask, third son of Andrew, 2nd Lord (d. 1514), and second son by his second wife Elizabeth Stewart, daughter of Sir John Stewart of Balveny, afterwards Earl of Atholl (great-grandson to John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, son of Edward III. ), by his wife Margaret, daughter of Archibald, 5th Earl of Douglas.

The descendants of Gilbert Gray of Buttergask by the male line (of whom many are living) through Andrew Gray of Bullion, fifth son of Patrick 5th Lord Gray, and by the female line through Anna, eldest daughter of Andrew, 7th Lord Gray, have a very respectable antiquity. Their ancestry can b-3 traced in unbroken lines back to Egbert (son of Cerdic), first king of Wessex, who died 836 ; Kenneth MacAlpin, first king over the Picts and Scots, died 859 ; William the Conqueror ; and Hugh Capet, king of France, who died 996. Thus through Elizabeth Stewart (daughter of Sir John Stewart of Balveny and Margaret Douglas his wife) who was married to Andrew, 2nd Lord Gray, their descendants can trace a direct connexion with the royal families of England, Scotland, and France. PATRICK GRAY.

Dundee.

That the same Christian name was often given to children of the same family is unquestionable, but more frequently when the first-named was dead. My experience is based upon Church records which hava been examined by myself.

A year or two ago, when collecting information for my ' Croydon's More Ancient History,'- &c., I found that, owing to an error of previous writers, it was stated that there had been two Vicars of Croydon named Samuel Fynche. Samuel Fynche, the vicar, who was Archbishop Whitgift's right-hand man in the building of the latter's hospital of the Holy Trinity, Croydon, had a son named Samuel. The first-named Samuel Fynche was collated by Archbishop Grindal in 1581, and my investigations show that he was re- pre- sented to the living in 1603. He was married three times. By his first wife he had a son christened in 1582 Samuel, and by his third wife he had in addition a son who was also baptized Samuel, and by the first wife a son christened William, and by the third wife another son called William. His first wife had a daughter christened Elizabeth, who died in 1608 ; while a daughter by his third wife was also named Elizabeth, born in 1605. It may be men-