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NOTES AND QUERIES. [io s. vn. JAN. 19, 1907.

' confirmation. I am anxious to trace the collection in which the recitation can be found. L. STANLEY JAST,

Chief Librarian. . Central Library, Town Hall, Croydon.

PHILIP WRIGHT, c. 1759. I should be much obliged for any information that would enable me to ascertain who the parents were of a Philip Wright born circa 1759. He had a brother Robert, born circa 1764, and is believed to have been born in Nottinghamshire, and to have had two other brothers, named John and George.

PERICE G. MAHONY, Cork Herald. Office of Arms, Dublin Castle.

GENTLEMEN'S EVENING DRESS. Lady Dorothy Nevill in her very interesting book of ' Reminiscences ' has the following para- graph (chap. v. p. 56) :

" Whilst on the subject of dress of a bygone day, I may mention that my brother always maintained that it was the first Lord Lytton who brought about the fashion of universal and unchanging black for gentlemen's evening dress. If my memory does not play me false, Pelham was always dressecl in clothes of that colour."

I should be glad to have further evidence as to this far-reaching initiative which has brought men to " customary suits of solemn black." NEL MEZZO.

FRENCH REVOLUTION. Having to prepare an essay on the French Revolution, I shall be glad to be recommended books on the subject. I know of the general authorities, Carlyle, Michelet, Burke, &c., but want more particularly secondary sources of information, such as novels, plays, miscellaneous writings, &c., either in French or English, bearing upon the social or historical aspect of the period. Please reply direct.

G. FREEMAN. 3, Coleridge Street, Hove.

[You may be interested in the account of French Revolution pottery at 10 S. iv. 228, 252, 292.]

ANDREW JUKES. The author of ' Col- lections and Recollections,' in his Saturday contributions always interesting, and in certain respects unique to The Manchester Guardian, alluded, in an article on 22 Dec., 1906, on ' More Autographs,' to " Andrew Jukes, the deepest and most influential Mystic whom the latter-day Church has seen." I have some recollection of the name of Andrew Jukes being associated in the press with that of General Gordon shortly after the death of the latter, and of a state- ment to the effect that the books of Jukes had greatly influenced Gordon. ' The Resti-

tution of All Things ' is the title of one of his books. Perhaps some reader of ' N. & Q.*' could furnish particulars concerning Andrew Jukes : his name does not appear in the- ' D.N.B.' Was he incumbent for some time of an Anglican church in Hull ? Is the estimate of Mr. G. W. E. Russell, the- writer of The Manchester Guardian article to which reference has been made, and a devout Churchman, generally accepted ? Did Jukes influence the Christian thought and life of General Gordon ? J. GRIGOR.

105, Choumert Road, Peckham, S.E.

DUKE or KENT'S CHILDREN. In ' The Creevey Papers ' it is mentioned that the Duke of Kent had contracted an irregular union with a certain Madame St. Laurent, with whom he lived many years, and with whom he only broke off his connexion when^ on the death of the Princess Charlotte, it became expedient that the younger royal dukes should marry. In Lewis Melville's ' First Gentleman of Europe ' it is stated he had twelve children by her. Is anything known of these children ? It seems strange that, while the offspring of William IV. and Mrs. Jordan should be ennobled, these should have been left in obscurity.

HELGA.

PAPYRUS AND PARCHMENT. Some months ago I saw in the Revue des Questions His- tcriques a reference to a writer who, in the Jesuit fitudes, had been able to fix the date of (so far as I remember) the latest diploma on papyrus and the earliest on parchment that now exist. Can one of your readers kindly give me an exact reference to the article in the titudes ? Q. V.

" A PENNY SAVED IS TWO PENCE GOT."-

I remember a schoolfellow who endeavoured to prove to me the truth of this proverb, but I never saw it in print till I read it in a dis- patch of 1693, printed in C. R. Wilson's 'Old Fort William' (1906, i. 12). Is it now of wide currency ? Q. V.

[Quotations for "a penny saved is & penny got" are given in the ' N.E.I).,' *.r. ' Penny,' IV. 9 c.]

LADY FANSHAWE'S MEMOIRS. Can any one give me information respecting the present whereabouts of the MS. copy of Lady Fansh awe's memoirs and the other Fanshawe family papers mentioned by W. J. R. V. at 10 S. iii. 494 as being in his possession. The signature was that of Mr. W. J. Harvey, of 38, Tyrrell Road, Peckham Rye, who died suddenly last March ; and his brother informs me that no trace of these can be found, neither