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as we should now call it, as architect's clerk of the works) at Hampton Court Palace. The position was a responsible one, and Talman was well suited to fill it. I am not aware that there are any drawings in existence of the old palace as it was before Wren's alterations, and it is probable that no such drawings were made by Wren. Architectural draughtsmanship in the seventeenth century, and even in the eighteenth, was of a rudimentary kind, as may be seen by the volume of drawings in the Soane Museum attributed to Thorpe, and Sir John Soane's own working drawings at the same place. Architects formerly troubled themselves but little about the plans of existing buildings to which they made additions. JOHN HEBB.

Brighton.

William Talman (fl. 1670-1700) was appointed Comptroller of the Works to William III., and in that capacity was responsible for the carrying out of the extensive additions and alterations to Hampton Court Palace, begun in 1690 from

" Mercury and Fame mount the steeds. . ,,. but the horses of Coustou bear no riders."

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FLINT AND STEEL (10 S. vii. 329, 377). In the tinder-box in my possession the* flint strikes the steel, the sparks igniting tinder in the box between flint and steel. I am in the habit of using a flint and steel occa- sionally out shooting, useful as a reserve when matches are short, and then the steel is the moving body, being held in the right hand. HAROLD MALET, Col.

In nearly every house I knew as a lad in. Derbyshire there were complete tinder- boxes, and the older folks, who had used them long before strike-on-the-box matches came into use, used to show the youngsters how to strike a light, and then light a match by the use of flint and steel. Most of them held the flint in the left hand, the piece of steel in the right striking downward into the tinder. Some reversed this, and struck flint on steel. Sometimes flint with flint was used to produce the sparks, and a

the designs of Sir Christopher Wren, with biggish pebble or boulder split in two was a

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whose opinion Talman appears frequently disagreed.

A folio volume of Talman's drawings is preserved at the Royal Institute of British Architects ; but not having referred to this volume, I do not know if it contains any designs of Hampton Court Palace.

ALFRED SYDNEY LEWIS.

Library, Constitutional Club.

MARLY HORSES (10 S. vii. 190, 211, 251, 277, 352, 376). In reply to L. P., there is, of course, no reason why the horses of Coyzevox, ordered for Marly, should not have been

to have I g O( i substitute for flint and steel, and this any one may demonstrate by trying it with a couple of rough boulder stones, which are in hardness next door to flints.

THOS. PvATCLIFFE.

Worksop.

SULPHUR MATCHES : MATCH - MAKER'S SONG (10 S. vii. 348).

Gentle Achates, reach the tinder-box That we may make a fire to warm us with.

Marlowe, ' Dido,' Act I.

I am glad to find that my friend J. T. F. can remember the old " tunder-box " and

styled " Horses of Marly " or " Marly the matches that accompanied it. I never

Horses " ; but the authority quoted is not ' 1 J J - 1 --

a good one, and does not directly give the title favoured by L. P. On the other hand, L. P. produces no evidence from any one to modify the undoubted fact that it is the horses of Coustou the younger, standing at the bottom of the Champs Elysees, which have invariably been styled the " Horses of Marly " since they were brought from Marly to Paris. It is not clear why L. P. writes : " Without attempting to question the authority of Lady Dilke's ' French Archi- tects and Sculptors,' I must insist that

heard the match-maker's song which he quotes, but wish I could acquire a copy or meet with some one who remembers it.

The following jingle, once the delight of scullery-maids, has been familiar to me since early childhood :

Matches and tunder, When a man's married He 's f o'st to knock under.

Peas on the floor, When a man 's married His troubles are o'er.

Tunder " is mentioned among the

words on which there follow statements, I needful things to be provided for the Earl one italicized, which are not inconsistent of Northumberland on his joining the army with any statement of the book. The words in 1513 (Archceologia, xxvi. 404). italicized state that the figures of the groups | There is a Lincolnshire jest, which I have

by Coyzevox are "both on horseback.' The words of Lady Dilke on this point are :

been familiar with from very early days,, that sets forth how a young girl who could