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which I know only from catalogues : ' Pekin ese Rhymes,' collected and translated bj Baron G. Vitale, Peking, 1896, and 'Can tonese Love Songs,' edited and translatec by C. Clementi, and published by th Clarendon Press. A Chinese diplomat, wh was a great connoisseur, gave me as a wedding present a poem emblazoned upon a pair of scrolls, which the querist, if he cares to see them, will find photographed in G. R. Sims's 'Living London,' vol. i. p. 81 The Chinese text reads :

Hwa wai tsin tsai lien li shu,

King chung shwang chao pi kien jin.

The meaning is "Nigh to the flower-beds are other plants around them whose roots are intertwined ; the mirror ever reflects two images which stand shoulder to shoulder.'' JAS. PLATT, Jun.

"PLACE" (10 th S. v. 267, 316, 333, 353, 371 412, 435). In 'The Antiquary's Portfolio,' by J. S. Forsyth (London, 1825), vol. i. p. 191 is a

"list of Jews supposed to preserve the names o the first settlers here of that nation. It was founc among the MSS. of Mendes Da Costa, and marked by him as received from Dr. Chauncey. The ortho- graphy shows it to have been made by some person of that persuasion, who had attained but a slight knowledge of the English language ; and the hand writing is certainly of about the middle of the seven teenth century."

In this list are the following :

Sinor Antony Rodregus Robles, Ducks plate. Sinor Josep / Deohnezous \ n, , , Sinor Mihelll brothers [Duck plate. Sin. Manuel de Costa Berto. Ducks plate. Sin. Docter Boyno, Phision to the Jewes, Ducks plate.

Sin. Aron Gabey, Ducks plate. Sin. Domingoes Deserga, Ducks plate.

I suppose that " Ducks plate " and " Duck plate" mean Duke's Placs, Aldgate, which has been mentioned several times in the replies. (See Peter Cunningham's 'Hand- book of London,' s.v. Ducksfoot Lane, "pro- perly Duke's-Foot-lane." Perhaps "Plate" was simply platea abbreviated (see ante, p. 333).

In Mason and Payne's reprint of the map called 'A Survey of London, made in the Year 1745,' is "Broad Pla" in the angle formed by Shoemaker Row and Henage (*., Heneage) Lane Shoemaker Row being now apparently Bevis Marks and Duke Street. If we assume that "Pla" means "Place," Broad Place and Duke's Place were close together, or perhaps identical.

" Dukes Place " and " Dukes place court '' appear in sect. i. ('Streets, Squares, Lanes, Markets, Courts, Alleys, P v ows, P v ents, Yards,

and Inns ') p. 26, of ' A New View of London,' 1708. ROBERT PIERPOINT.

"Places" are to be met with in most of the older cities of the U.S.A., but nowhere else to the same extent as in New York, where the title is applied both to a terrace of fine houses, such as Astor or University Place, and a short street, such as Washington, Clinton, or Waverley Place. All of these date from the end of the eighteenth century, or the first quarter of the nineteenth. I have always understood that the name was im- ported into America from France, as the influence of French architecture is very marked in many of the houses erected in New York during that period. Previous to the war of 1812 many American cities, in- cluding New York, Philadelphia, Boston, &c., were said to have been influenced a great deal by the stately buildings at that time in course of erection at Bath, Clifton, Chelten- ham, &c. Consequently, some of the " Places " in the former cities may owe their existence to those which were so fashionable in Eng- land. Rodney Place and Savile Place, Clifton, are said to have their counterparts in New York ; but already the erections of that era are fast giving way to the enormous " sky- scrapers " of our own day.

FREDERICK T. HIBGAME.

A few miles from Hastings, and not far from Ashburnham Place (already mentioned), areBrede Place and Ore Place, whose present mansions are described in local histories and guide-books as being on the site of manor houses dating from the fourteenth century. The name "Place" abounds in Sussex Fairlight Place, Firle Place, Isfield Place, Catsfield Place, Friston Place, Laugh ton Place, Glynde Place, Hurstmonceux Place,

. W. S.

At Salisbury each "place" or tenement area paid a fixed sum to the bishop. " Place " there seems equivalent to "haga" at Wal- lingford. Here in Devon the lord's house on a manor is in several instances known as "Place-barton"; for instance, at Honiton and Otterton. I mention these uses of the term, seeing that an ounce of fact is worth a ton of theory. OSWALD J. REICHEL.

A la Ronde, Lympstone, Devon.

CATEATON STREET (10 th S. v. 429). It was


 * he eastern end of the tortuous thoroughfare

now known as Gresham Street which bore

his name. Its boundaries are defined by

Stow thus :

14 Now for the north wing of Cheap Ward have ye Jatte Street, corruptly called Catteten Street, which )eginneth at the north $A of Ironmonger Jjane, a.n,<j