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NOTES AND QUERIES. [io- s. v. JUNE ie, woe.

sister to Robert or, as A. B. R., also incor- rectly, names him, Edward created Earl of Oxford ; whereas the said Abigail, who was born in 1664, died unmarried, 4 October, 1726 ; vide Collins's ' Peerage/ 1741, iii.

MR. H. D'AvENEY at 2 nd S. viii. 9 falls into the error of calling the mother of Abigail Hill a grand-daughter of Sir John Jenyns, instead of a daughter.

MR. BOSTOCK is quite correct in stating that Sir Edward Harley was baptized at Wigmore, 21 Oct., 1624 ; but the statement given in the pedigree I compiled, that he was M.P. for co. Hereford in 1640, although, in view of MR. BOSTOCK'S statement, apparently incredible, is also accurate. Collins, 1741, iii, records that Sir Edward Harley was baptized in 1624, was knight of the shire for Hereford in the last Parliament of Charles I., was wounded in battle, 1642, and bore a musket ball 58 years. In 1644 he was made Governor of Mon mouth.

"The last Parliament of Charles I." evi- dently refers to the Long Parliament, which assembled in 1640 and was dissolved in 1660, Charles having been executed 30 Jan., 1649 ; and in Sharpe's * Peerage,' ii., it is stated that "Sir Edward Harley, born 1624, was M.P. co. Hereford, 1640." Apparently in those days a man could be elected to a seat in Parliament before attaining the age of twenty-one.

I am unable to answer R. H. E. H.'s first and second questions, referred to in MR. BOSTOCK'S concluding paragraph, although I hope to see them replied to by some other contributor to * N. & Q.' ; but as regards the branch of the Hill family to which William and Francis Hill belonged, they traced their descent, according to the pedi- gree given by MR. H. D'AvENEY at 2 nd S. viii. 10 (in which, however, Francis's father is called Thomas, instead of William), to Sir Robert Hill, of the family of De la Hill of Kilminton, Devon, Judge of the Common Pleas under Henry IV., &c., and High Sheriff for Devon 1427. Unfortunately, the authority for this pedigree is not given.

FRANCIS H. RELTON.

"DUMA" (10 th S. v. 426). This word is one of those interesting culture- terms which Russia has borrowed from her Scandinavian neighbours. Vigfusson tells us in his dic- tionary that domr was an important term in Icelandic law, meaning a court of judgment, the body of judges, the court of law. It was in this sense that the word was introduced, with other Swedish words, into Russia, anc hence the present political meaning of the

Russian " Duma," namely, an assembly of councillors, met to pronounce their doom or udgment a far finer term than our word 1 Parliament,' 1 a talking-shop. The form of /he word is according to analogy. The Teutonic sound 6 or uo, being unknown in Slavonic, was rendered in Russian by u, exactly in the same manner as Old Swedish 'dths in roths rnenn, " rowers, seafarers," has Decome Rus, one of the forms of the native name of Russia; compare the Greek^form 'with the original long o), namely, ot Poos. See Thomson's 'Ancient Russia ' (1877), p. 96. Another instance of this vowel- change may be seen in Old Russian luda, "a cloak," with which we may compare Icelandic fo'(5,"lanugo," and O.E. lofta, "a cloak." For words of Scan- dinavian origin in Russian dialects see Grot's Philological Investigations ' (St. Petersburg, 1873), pp. 430-42. A. L. MAYHEW.

BARNES : ORIGIN OF THE NAME (10 th S. v. 308, 352). There is no doubt that the name of Berners has been modernized into Barnes, Ithough it does not follow that every Barnes is descended from a Berners. The old manor of Bernersbury, in Islington, which belonged to the Berners family from the time of William the Conqueror to that of Henry VII., has long been known as Barnsbury. Hugh de Berneres, according to the Middlesex Domesday, held lands in Stepney under the Bishop of London. He figures as Hugue de Berniere in the list of Companions of the Conqueror which was "drawn up, after con- sultation of every available authority, by M. E. de Magny, and prefixed to his ' Nobi- liaire de Normandie,' 1862. The name still exists among the seigneurial families of Lisieux, Caen, and Falaise, near which place the village of Bernieres is situated. In 4 Liber A. sive Pilosus,' which is preserved among the archives of St. Paul's, Ralph, a son of Hugh, is entered as "Radulphus de Bernariis." This indicates the Latin name of the property possessed by the family in Normandy (see Tomlins's ' Yseldon,' pp. 97, sgq.). This territorial name is of course quite distinct from Berner or Bernar, which is derived from an employment.

W. F. PRIDEAUX.

That Bernes, Barnes, Baernes, Berners, Barners, are the same family name is quite plain. This was not my query. I wanted the derivation of Bernieres in Normandy, evidently the place name of Hugh de Berners, who brought the name to England. PROF. SKEAT in 1867 calls Juliana Berners a bright ornament of the name, but in 1906 says the fable has no evidence at all.