Page:Notes and Queries - Series 10 - Volume 5.djvu/336

 276

NOTES AND QUERIES. [io<-s.v. APRIL 7,1900.

in favour of B. M.'s view (if his answer refers to query No. 1), being, in fact, his (Dalla- way 's) example No. 4. The rule as cited by Dallaway from the Glover MS. is :

"If a man whose ancestors have married with divers inheritrixes do marry with an inheritrix by whom he hath divers daughters, and afterwards marry another inheritrix by i whom. lie hath issue male, the issue general of the first wyfe shall bear their father's armes with their owne mother's quarterly."

I have always understood that the rules laid down by Glover were practically those adopted by the College of Arms in this country. On the other hand, Cussans, and Burke in his 'Heraldic Illustrations,' support the view of ULSTER. Though I do not con- sider that Dallaway or even Glover supports the view expressed by ULSTER, I may say I -entirely agree with his opinion, apart from cited authority. W. A. COPINGER.

Kersal Cell, Manchester.

As doctors are allowed to differ, I hope I may, as a student, be permitted to dissent 1 and to say

1. C is entitled to quarter the arms of her | father and mother.

2. C's son to quarter his own father's arms \ with those which were borne by C.

ST. S WITH IN.

GRANTHAM OF GOLTHO FAMILY (10 th S. v. 70, 231). My attention has been called to the j

letter of LlNDUM COLONIA accusing me of j taking a window out of one church and some recumbent effigies out of another, both I relating to the Grantham familj T, and of adopting arms that do not belong to me.

With the exception that I have placed the window in Barcombe Church and the effigies in a mission room in the same parish, there is not a word of truth in his statements, the facts relating to which he is apparently in absolute ignorance of.

The window, or rather some of the glass in it, was found in a hayloft, where it had been put and lost after the private chapel in which it had been ceased to be used, and was then given to me by the owner ; but that its origin should not be lost sight of,

- I ^ had its original home recorded on the window in its new home. The recumbent effigies LINDUM COLONIA speaks of, which doubtless, at one time, were in the church he mentions, but which must have been taken out many years ago, when the church was removed I found, very much damaged, under a heap of dung, and removed them at the suggestion of the then Dean of Lincoln (Dean Butler), as the Cathedral authorities would not give them a home.

His story about my arms is equally fic- titious. As to his remarks about my family, if they were true I should be proud to think I had succeeded in rising to the position of a judge from the husbandman or trigger h& speaks of so contemptuously ; but knowing something more than your correspondent of the migration of my family more than two centuries ago, I have tried in vain to find any connexion with those respectable handicraftsmen he refers to as Sussex Grant- hams ; but I shall not enter into a dis- cussion with such a correspondent, either as to my family history or the history of the Grantham memorials he alludes to.

I shall be delighted to give MR. GREEN, of Heralds' College, as I have informed him, a full history of them, as he apparently is ignorant of it, though I fully discussed the matter with one of the members of that College, now dead, some years ago.

WM. GRANTHAM.

I know nothing of this family, but I must protest against the inference, still most common, that people low in the social scale, as husbandmen and basket-makers, cannot possibly be akin to families of high standing. Fabrication of ancestors is very properly condemned, but it is a strong statement to- make that no Grantham of Essex has ever been shown to be connected in any way with Lincolnshire. Does your correspondent claim to have exhausted all records relating to families of the name? Perhaps record- evidence can very easily be cited showing such connexion. I hope this will be done by those who are interested.

GEORGE F. T. SHERWOOD.

50, Beecroft Road, Brockley, S.E.

SIR WILLIAM H. DE LANCEY (10 th S. iv. 409, 517 ; v. 72). Lady De Lancey's narra- tive is printed in The Century Magazine for April. Two very interesting letters from Sir Walter Scott and Charles Dickens appear with it, and show us how deeply they were affected by reading the pathetic story in manuscript. Among the names mentionec) by Lady De Lancey is that of a Lady Hamilton. Who she was I do not know. But among the portraits that illustrate the article in The Century is that of Lord Nelson's Lady Hamilton. A great error has been made. It cannot have been Lord Nelson's idol, for she- died some months before Waterloo. Can any of your readers tell us what Lady Hamilton it was ? There were seven or eight British officers of that name present at the battle. Was she related to any of them ? Her name,, however, does not appear in Lady De llos's