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NOTES AND QUERIES. [10* s. in. APRIL 22, 1905.

out to India as soldiers see ' The History of Fort St. George,' p. 37.

The Turville family (spelt also Tourville and Tiville in the records) was on the coast some years before the marriage of George Turville and Sarah Clark ; the first mention of the name in the Madras records is in 1678. When Thomas Turville died in 1751 John De Morgan claimed his estate as next of kin, and his claim was allowed (St. Mary's Vestry Records, 1753). FRANK PENNY.

It is just possible that the baptismal cer- tificate of Capt. John De Morgan, of the H.E.I. (IS. (if military), may exist in one of the bundles of papers of the first appoint- ments of military officers in the records of the Military Department at the India Office, Whitehall ; or in the entry of his marriage in the Madras Presidency in the Adminis- trator-General's Department, also at that office ; or in the local newspapers, magazines, and gazettes (Indian and English) of 1760.

C. MASDN.

29, Emperor's Gate, S.W.

THE GREAT SEAL OF SCOTLAND (10 th S. iii. 242). The following extract from a letter written by my ancestor the Earl of Dun- fermline, Lord Chancellor of Scotland, to the Earl of Annandale on 30 June, 1614, request- ing that he may be furnished with a new bag for carrying the Great Seal, may be of in- terest. He says :

"Lord Diimbar send to me from thence eurie yeir out off his maiesties wardroppe ane bordered poolke for carieing the greate seale, sic as my Lord Chancelar caries thair, werie magnitic and honest ; for that can nocht be gottin maed heir, or ellis 1 sould nocht trubill yiow nor nane for ane. Sence my Lord Uumbar departit this lyff, this three yeir I haue had nane, and sic as I haue are worne aulde and nocht sa cuimelie as neid war, quhilk I man wish yiow, cousing, find meanis to gett supplied be his maiesties command out of the warderobbe, as hes beiri before. Sir Alexander Hay, now clerk of Register, then Secretair, quha was in vse to cause mak thame, saves to me he caused, eiuer at my Lord Doumbarris directioun be his maiesties command, ane Mr. Brodic in the wardrobbe mak thame, and thay war all werie fair in deid, bordered with the armis of Scotland on the first quarter and thridde, Inglish on the second, and Irish in the fourt ; and with all ornamentisoff baith kingdomes ansuirabill, as I doubt nocht but the said Mr. Brodic, or sum of hisseruandis, hes yit the exempill beside thame and patrone ; for the last I had was in the yeir 1610, sent to me be my Lord Uoumbar."

BARON SETON, OF ANDRIA. Seton Cottage, Victoria Road, Great Yarmouth.

PENNY WARES WANTED (10 th S. ii. 369, 415,

456 ; iii. 16, 98, 235). I have heard people

ask for " penny-bread," which is the same as

oaf ; "penny-bun "is common ; and "penny-

duck," also known as "savoury- duck," is a penny round article made by some pork- butchers, and sold hot with a liberal supply of gravy for that sum. I never solved the composition of the penny-duck. The prefix " penny " is in constant use for all kinds of articles sold at that price, and to enumerate them would be to run through a large pro- portion of toydom. THOS. RATCLIFFE. Worksop.

'Penny Theatres' closed (see The Times, 17 March, 1838, p. 7, col. 3) ; ' Penny Lotteries' (John Ashton's 'History of Lot- teries,' p. 48) ; * The Penny Gaff' (J. Ewing Ritchie's 'Here and There in London,' 1859) ; 'Peg Pennyworth' (Yorkshire Notes and Queries, July, 1904, p. 135); Penny -wort; Penny-grass; Penny-royal; Penniless Bench (Halliwell). J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL.

KING'S COCK-CROWER (10 th S. iii. 228). In addition to the information given by MR. THURSTON, I may add that the correspondent at 2 ml S. iii. 69 stated that the duties were abolished on the accession of George I., but not the office and salary, which were con- tinued till the time of George IV. See also The Gentleman's Magazine, vol. lv. p. 341.

EVERARD HOME COLEMAN. 71, Brecknock Road.

Chambers's ' Book of Days,' i. 240, gives a similar account to that in ' N. & Q.,' and adds :

"From that period we find no further account of the exertion of the imitative powers of this im- portant officer ; but the Court has been left to the voice of reason and conscience to remind them of their errors, and not to that of the cock whose clarion called back Peter to repentance, which this fantastical and silly ceremony was meant to typify."

Brady is given as the authority probably ' The Clavis Calendaria,' by John Brady. A note states :

" In Debrett's ' Imperial Calendar ' for the year 1822, in the list of persons holding appointments in the Lord Steward's department of the Royal Household, occurs the Cock and Cryer at Scotland- yard."

'Anglia Notitia,' by Edw. Chamberlayne, 1684, p. 159, under ' Civil Government of the King's Court, 1 gives " Cock of the Court one [person]." The 1694 edition, p. 226, under Officers and Servants below Stairs, &c.,' has "Cock and Cryer, William Sampson, board wages, 181. 5s. per annum." The same information appears in 1702, but the office is not mentioned in the 1718 edition.

JOHN RADCLIFFE.

The household of King George I. included some curious offices among the lower