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the best part of a day, and it was on that occasion I asked how he pronounced his name. I had it from his own lips that he then called it Besant. I did not pursue the .subject, though I had heard from an indepen- dent source that he originally called himself Bezant, and changed it in order to be unlike Mrs. Besant, the Theosophist. I give this for what it is worth. There is evidence that the accentuation Besant is quite five hundred years old. On the other hand, I have another friend who tells me that in his, a Shropshire branch of the family, the sound is always Besant. JAS. PL ATT, Jun.

" LEAD " = LANGUAGE (10 th S. iii. 145). Fully explained, with seventeen examples, in the ' English Dialect Dictionary,' vol. iii. p. 565, s v. ' Leed.' WALTER W. SKEAT.

Perhaps W. B. will oblige further by telling us what sound is represented by " lead " in the verse from Forfar. Is it the sound of lead, phtmbu-m, or of lead, ducere ? Q. V.

SIR ABRAHAM SHIPMAN (10 th S. iii. 127). Capt. Shipman was sent with a troop of 100 men and ammunition to Edinburgh Castle in January, 1639/40, and was entered in the king's service there on 15 February, with an allowance of 15*-. per day (' lluthven Correspondence,' printed by the Roxburghe Club in 1868). As Sir A. Shipman, he is mentioned as having some charge at Chester in September, 1643, and was in the garrison at Pendennis Castle, April to June, 1644 ('Calendar of the Clarendon State Papers,' vol. i., 1872, pp. 244, 310, 323).

W. D. MACRAY.

An inquiry respecting this officer appeared in 1 st S. vi., and two replies followed, giving particulars of his marriage, services, and death, together with his being " a legatee in two wills." See pp. 360, 419. I will furnish COL. GRAHAM with copies of the replies should he require them.

EVERARD HOME COLEMAN. 71, Brecknock Road.

AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (10 th S. iii. 148). MR. LATHAM asks who is the author of " Mon verre n'est pas grand,'' &c. Of course, it is from A. de Musset :

Mon verre n'est pas grand, mais je bois dans mon verre.

I thought it was part of ' Le Rhin Alle- mand,' but it is not. I regret to be so forgetful. ALF. HAMONET.

"SARUM" (10 th S. ii. 445, 496 ; iii. 37, 75). If MR. HAMILTON can produce early docu- ments in which Sav is used interchangeably

with tiarum, I hope he will do so. Consider- able perusal of late thirteenth-century MSS. has not afforded me a single instance ; 1 have not thought it worth while to note those where Say interchanges with Saresliria an 1 the like. For authority on the point I may refer him to the Reader in Diplomatic in the University of Oxford. Dr. Poole writes, in a note on p. 340 of his ' Report on the Muni- ments of the Dean and Chapter of Salisbury ' (Hist. MSS. Comm., 'Various Collections/ i., 1901): "Mr. Jones regularly prints the later and notoriously erroneous form 'Sarurn' in place of the abbreviated form of 'Saresbiria.''"' The italics are those of Q. V.

" TOURMALINE ": ITS ETYMOLOGY (10 tb S. iii. 66, 115, 1 52). Please let me add that my success in giving the correct etymology in my 'Concise Etymological Dictionary" (1901) was entirely due to the kindness of MR. DONALD FERGUSON, as stated at the last reference.

I regret that it has proved impossible to name my many helpers. It will readily be understood that my work is rather a laborious compilation from other men's results than anything approaching originality. I have really discovered several word-histories my- self, but I do not mark such words, and many of these etymologies have long been common property. I beg leave, once for all, to thank most heartily many friends who have given valuable hints, and to disclaim all personal credit for any particular result.

As to the French form tourmaline, Hatzfeld says that it is recorded in the ' Dictionnaire de Trevoux,' ed. 1771.

WALTER W. SKEAT.

LEFROY FAMILY (10 th S. ii. 529). If your correspondent will turn to 4 th S. viii. 105, 269, 339, he will find six articles, principally on the etymology of the name, and a refer- ence to The Herald and Genealogist.

EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.

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