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 : That is our conviction.


 * From our contacts with people from Western Europe, we have this impression -- including the Prime Minister of Denmark.


 * You will see. Last year we had a period of turmoil, leading to a higher degree of order. [Laughter]


 * I suppose you will start talking philosophy again. [Laughter]


 * The President will meet with the German Chancellor on December 5th, and with the French President in the middle of December -- the 14th, 15th, and 16th. And I think you will see those meetings will be very successful.


 * The Doctor mentioned that the United States fears that the Left in Europe might get into power.


 * We have in France and Italy Communist Parties that are substantially influenced from Moscow.


 * That is true.


 * They are now performing a strategy -- which is very intelligent -- of appearing very moderate and responsible. On the other hand, I think it has been one of the successes of our foreign policy that they have had to show their responsibility by supporting NATO -- at least the Italians.


 * But that is not reliable.


 * Absolutely unreliable. Absolutely unreliable. When you analyze our foreign policy you have to understand we have to do certain things and say certain things designed to paralyze not only our Left but the European Left as well. But we are opposed to, and we shall resist, the inclusion of the Left in European governments. We shall do so in Portugal because we don't want that to be the model for other countries. And we shall do so in Italy. And of course in France.


 * In our view it is by no means easy [for them] to get into power.