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Rh published by BuzzFeed, but there was some information that's not out there. Is this some information that Mr. Steele provided you in relationship to the work you had hired him to perform for you?

A What I was specifically referring to was there's discussions of identities of sources that we had, and obviously that's not in there. And, you know, I can't think of another specific thing that's not in there, but there's like pieces of work that we -- you know, things that didn't make it in there that he conveyed to me orally that weren't that significant. I can't think of examples of them.

But I guess I was trying to be really careful to say that, you know, we worked -- we did this project over a number of months and we had discussions of things that didn't make it into the memos.

Q Is that recorded somewhere, all that other information --

A No.

Q -- at your company?

A No.

Q No. So it doesn't exist?

A It's -- right. It's -- I'm referring to mostly phone conversations and meetings.

Q But you didn't record any notes or anything like that?

A I don't do that, no.

Q Okay. Just checking.

I just want to check back to your relationship with Perkins Coie. Did you, Fusion, you, Mr. Simpson, or somebody at your behest approach Perkins Coie, or did they approach you?

A I don't -- I don't have firsthand knowledge of that question. I think -- I UNCLASSIFIED, COMMITTEE SENSITIVE