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Rh subpoena power and where we would go if we wanted to find out about Scotland and Panama and Toronto and Ireland, and you were talking about like the brokers and I guess the banks in Switzerland and New York, my only question is, why didn't you do that?

MR. SIMPSON: I don't have subpoena power.

MR. ROONEY: So there's no other way that you could -- there's no other way that you could access that information other than just subpoena, having a subpoena in those countries?

MR. SIMPSON: Well, I mean, the way that I would do it if I was a U.S., you know, entity that had subpoena power is I would figure out --

MR. ROONEY: No, not us. Like you, as Fusion, an opposition research guy, why couldn't you do it?

MR. SIMPSON: Because it's generally not legal. Financial privacy protections.

I mean, so my specialty and the reason that I --

MR. ROONEY: That's fine. I just didn't know that. All right. Thank you.


 * Are you okay to keep going?.

MR. LEVY: Yes. Let me just say one thing.

[Discussion off the record.]


 * Okay to continue?

MR. SIMPSON: Yes.


 * Great, thanks. So I think we have it for 15, and we'll go. We're still doing 15-minute rounds. Mr. Rooney took about 2 minutes asking his question, so I've got about 13 left.

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