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Rh it essentially was: I think we're going to need you for the foreseeable future, so just keep, you know, talking to your sources and sending us memos whenever you have information.

MR. QUIGLEY: And without getting into the exact communications, when did you start alerting your client that this might have been a bigger deal than, as you just described it than originally thought?

MR. SIMPSON: Yeah. I mean, I think that would call for a confidential client communication. I think what I can say is -- well, let me put it this way. I think it's now public that, you know, the FBI had gone to the DNC prior to this and told them, you know, that they'd been hacked by the Russian Government.

And, you know, foreign intelligence services hacking American political operations is not that unusual, actually, and there's a lot of foreign intelligence services that play in American elections. And so that in itself isn't actually totally alarming. The Chinese did it last time. Indians do it. But when it became --

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MR. SIMPSON: When the suggestion that they were going to weaponize that information and that this was more than just an intel gathering operation, that they were actually going to engage in active measures, that was when, you know, it became a major issue. And I think by late June there was a lot of signs that that was going to happen.

MR. QUIGLEY: The dossier was published. Other elements were published. What wasn't published? Are there still documents? Is there still information that was garnered by either Mr. Steele or others that the public isn't aware of at this point, on this point?

MR. SIMPSON: Well, to just put it on the record, we were not the ones UNCLASSIFIED, COMMITTEE SENSITIVE