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Rh MR. SIMPSON: I eventually learned that, yes. I'm sorry, let me correct that. He told me -- well, I can walk you through the sequence.

MR. ROONEY: Just when did he tell you?

MR. SIMPSON: He originally said: I think we should go -- this information is national security information. I think we should report it to the FBI. That was in July or late June, shortly after the first memo.

MR. ROONEY: Sixteen?

MR. SIMPSON: Sixteen. He said: I'm a former intelligence officer, and we're your closest ally. You know, I have obligations, professional obligations. If there's a national security emergency or possible national security issue, I should report it.

MR. ROONEY: So this was before he actually did it?

MR. SIMPSON: Yes.

MR. ROONEY: Okay.

MR. SIMPSON: And I -- so I didn't say okay. I just said: Let me think about it, I'm not sure what I should do here.

MR. ROONEY: So did you give him any direction?

MR. LEVY: He wasn't finished.

MR. ROONEY: I'm sorry.

MR. SIMPSON: It's a quick story. So he said he needed -- that we needed to do this or he needed to do this. And I didn't -- couldn't think -- first of all, he didn't volunteer that he had a relationship that he could do it. He just raised the issue. And at some point he did say -- I said: Well, I wouldn't know who to talk to and I don't know -- I just didn't know -- feel qualified to do that. And he said: I know people at the FBI and I can do it. UNCLASSIFIED, COMMITTEE SENSITIVE