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28 the existence of a counterintelligence investigation.

Mr. Okay. I remember that. I remember generally it was in March, but sure.

Mr. Do you recall in what way you used the word "criminal" and at what point in your testimony?

Mr. Without looking at the testimony, I don't.

Mr. Do you recall Rod Rosenstein's memo appointing special counsel?

Mr. No, I don't.

Mr. What is the difference between collusion and conspiracy?

Mr. I don't know because I don't know what collusion means. It's a term I haven't heard in my career in the Justice Department, so I don't know.

Mr. Let's assume that collusion and conspiracy are synonyms, and we'll just use the word "conspiracy" because the word "collusion," despite its nonstop use, has no criminal consequences.

Would it be a crime to access the DNC server or Podesta's email without permission or in an unlawful way?

Mr. That's a hard one to answer in the abstract. It's potentially a crime whenever someone either, without authorization, enters a computer system or conspires to enter a computer system without authorization.

Mr. Did the FBI, in July of 2016, have any evidence