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24 and the Russian interference effort. And those four Americans did not include the candidate.

Mr. Do you recall who drafted the FBI's initiation document for that late July 2016 Russia investigation?

Mr. I do not.

Mr. Would you disagree that it was Peter Strzok?

Mr. I don't know one way or the other.

Mr. Do you know who approved that draft of an initial plan for the Russia investigation in late July 2016?

Mr. I don't.

Mr. Would you disagree that it was Peter Strzok?

Mr. That Peter Strzok approved? I don't know one way or the other.

Mr. Drafted and approved it.

Mr. I don't know one way or the other.

Mr. Have you read that initiation document?

Mr. I don't think so. I don't remember ever seeing it.

Mr. Do you recall seeing the phrase "Trump campaign" in that initiation document?

Mr. Well, I don't remember seeing it, ever seeing it, so certainly don't remember any portion of it, because I don't remember ever seeing it.

Mr. If it said Trump campaign, do you still have the same answer you had when I asked you whether or not it involved