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189 Mr. And Ms. Page?

Mr. I don't remember her being there.

Mr. And what did McCabe, Baker, and Rybicki advise you to do, and then any of the others who -- if you can remember, what did they advise you to do after you showed them the memo and then talked about your -- you know, what had happened with you and the President?

Mr. I don't remember who said what, but I remember two points of consensus: We were all very concerned about it; and, second, we agreed that we ought to hold it very close, not brief the investigative team at this point and not go over and talk to the leadership of the Department of Justice, to hold onto it until we got a new Deputy Attorney General and they sorted out how they were going to supervise the Russia investigation.

Mr. Why did you decide not to share it with the leadership of the Justice Department?

Mr. Because we believed that the Attorney General, Mr. Sessions, was --

Mr. Excuse me one second. I've got to move. I'm having trouble seeing you here.

Mr. We believed that the Attorney General, Mr. Sessions, was on the cusp of recusing himself from anything related to Russia, so it didn't make any sense to brief him on it, and that there was no Deputy Attorney General at that point.

Mr. Why would you make that assumption? I mean,