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137 of collection going on all the time.

Mr. As it relates to Russian interference and the potential use of people within the Trump campaign, was there any initiation on the part of the FBI to collect information prior to the last week of July of 2016? And if so -- well, answer that question.

Mr. So I want to make sure I'm getting it right. Was there --

Mr. I want you to get it right, too, because it's at conflict with -- what you're saying is at conflict with what we've had in other testimony.

Mr. Okay. Well, I mean, I can't help that. I'll tell you what I -- what I know, that, if you're asking, was there any information that the FBI had that people associated with the Trump campaign might be working with the Russians -- if we had any such information before the end of July? Is that the question?

Mr. Well, you can answer that question.

Mr. Yeah, I'm not aware of any information before the end of July on that subject --

Mr. Right.

Mr. -- and it was our first information at the end of July that prompted the opening of those four files.

Mr. So, prior to the end of July, did you direct or did you have knowledge of the FBI trying to collect information