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133 Mr. In general, I think that's right. You want to present to the judge reviewing your application a complete picture of the evidence, both its flaws and its strengths.

Mr. What's a defensive briefing?

Mr. In the counterintelligence world, it's a mechanism by which the FBI will alert somebody to a counterintelligence threat that might tend to defeat the threat.

Mr. Are they done for Presidential candidates?

Mr. Not routinely. What's routinely done for candidates is a general briefing of -- what I meant by "defensive briefing" is it's specific to you and threats we see at you. With candidates, my recollection is we gave a general counterintelligence briefing about the threat coming from different nations.

Mr. Do you recall doing that for Secretary Clinton when she was the nominee?

Mr. I don't. But I assume that someone did.

Mr. Okay. Do you know if one was done for candidate Trump?

Mr. Again, I don't know for sure, but I expect it was done, just as it was done for Secretary Clinton.

Mr. Where would I get that information? Who would I ask, since you don't know?

Mr. Probably the Director of National Intelligence's Office. I have some recollection that they