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73 Dan on as an Acting National Security Advisor. If Robert wasn't there or Matt wasn't there, I'd stay close to the president.

Only. So would you be the Pottinger person, for lack of a better term, on use of or the relationship with the Department of Defense?

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah. National Security Advisor is.

Okay. And related to normal security issues, would you be the Pottinger person with, like, the FBI and DHS?

No, that would really be Mark Meadows.

Meadows. And why would those issues follow Meadows as opposed to you?

Just kind of the way it fell out. I mean, it was just kind of like, okay, you're kind of the defense, but, you know, I'll handle the other agencies.

So Mark, a matter of just function --

Yeah, it way just function. I can't tell you really why,. But it was just kind of the way it was done.

All right. So you have a couple of cups of coffee. You read your PDB. When was the first time you saw the President on January 6th?

I went over -- and I don't know the exact time but I went over there and to, more than anything else, check in, in the morning. This is what's happening. The world is relatively safe. There's no war going on. And at that time and it happened I walked, because remember I said I had walk-in privileges, that's when they started to go over the speech.

All right. So let me stop you there. So when you say "walk-in," you mean