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71 Okay.

Just that, you know, just being observant.

Okay. And do you get the sense they were avoiding each other because of this issue, the Vice President --

I think because of this issue.

Not --

It goes back to the very -- very start. There was nobody else in the White House, I believe, that had that relationship between the President and the Vice President through 4 years. Remember Marc Short had come and gone. He had started as domestic policy. Left the White House. Then he came back to the White House, different position. So I had that continuity that nobody else had. So you kind of pick up the body language of everybody walking around.

Mr. . Anything else on this issue?

Mr. . [Nonverbal response.]

Mr. . No.

Mr. . Ms Cheney, do you have any questions on this issue? We're about to get into the morning of January 6th.

Ms. I do not. Thanks,.

Mr. . Okay.

BY MR. :

Okay. So January 6th comes. You've already told us. You typically arrive at the White House between 7 and 7:30. Now where were you before the rally that occurred on January 6th on The Ellipse?

You want to go minute by minute of give you the general view?

We are going break it down as much as we can.