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62 significance of January 6th before, and particularly the joint session, before January 6th?

No. Because I -- I mean, because I didn't see it as a historic day. I saw it as a day that is, when you say "historic," it was sort of enshrined in how they count the electoral college votes. So it wasn't historic meaning an anomaly, one of a kind. It was, okay, this is how it's done. This is how the business of counting the electoral college vote is done.

And did you know if the President saw that day in particular as anything different than what you just described?

Well, it seems like he did. But, no, I didn't.

Okay. Why do you say that? Why do you say --

Well, because what we're doing right now. To me, if was, like, it was a normal progress of events that is to count the electoral college votes. It was just how it's done.

Okay. Did you have any understanding that he viewed it other than that from discussions within the White House, within the campaign?

I didn't know with him. I don't want to speak for him but no.

Okay. Did you ever talk to Mr. Meadows about this being --

No.

-- something other than just straight counting of electoral votes?

No.

Did you ever talk with anybody in the campaign about this being something other than --

No. By that time, the campaign was gone.

Okay. People who had worked for the campaign then.

No.