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59 Okay. And how did you do this after-action review?

Just talked to people. You know, how I would normally do it is, you know, I'd say, you know, how did the -- let's just -- I'll use Kash Patel as a name but as the -- but how did this happen? How did we get there? You know, what caused this to happen?

And I put in my intellectual bank for the future, just saying, okay, if this ever comes up again, you have the intellectual memory of doing it instead of -- you know, and that's kind of how I would do it to keep historically of doing it.

You know, it's unfortunate,, there weren't any after-action reviews. But there haven't been any after-action reviews about the debacle in Afghanistan either. The fact is we don't do them very well. We should. We don't.

Okay. Now one of the things in this quote, too, is talking about a quick reaction force 12 miles away. What did you learn about that?

What I learned through Matt Pottinger was Miller had apparently told Pottinger that there was quick reaction force at Joint Base Andrews, and I don't know if there was or not. The fact is you can call out the National Guard from D.C. faster than you can call out anybody else. But that was a comment he had made when they said, where's the National Guard?

Okay. So, just to clarify, Miller, Secretary Miller, told Mr. Pottinger that on January 6th and you heard that? Or is this something --

That's when I knew about it, because that's when he was talking to -- when Meadows had come out of the Oval, Matt Pottinger was in the outer office. He was on the phone, I believe, to Miller. And I was in proximity. So I heard they were saying that is there was a concern about optics.

Okay. Very good. And we'll go through, again, some of this in just a