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57 it was Tony Ornado, former head of the Secret Service detail, he made the comment that I think -- and I -- well, I'm not sure of the exact number; it was close -- like I could get like 3,000 marshals on the street really fast. And I had never known that, but apparently you can pull in marshals faster than you can pull on defense assets.

Okay. And that's --

But I do know that day, because it was said about the National Guard not being there, subsequent to Mark Meadows asking me where the Guard was and we located Matt Pottinger, Matt had made the comment to Meadows, words to the effect that Miller was concerned about optics of having uniformed military on the street.

And so that conversation and the issue about optics, that happened on January 6th?

Uh-huh.

Were you aware of any optics-type conversations about the troops or about law enforcement before January 6th?

No.

And this --

That day, no. Subsequently, when we started reassembling, the answer is, yeah, probably.

Okay. So, just to break that down, you're saying you're reassembling. Does that mean, like, putting the pieces of what together of what had happened?

Well, talking to people, talking, subsequently they tell you, like, when you try to reconstruct what exactly had happened.

Okay.

That's all the stuff I'm talking about.

Why did you do that? Why did you reconstruct stuff?