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40 or the luggage that had the files, you know, if he wanted to do something on the airplane.

And then he left the administration, went somewhere, came back to the administration, became the PPO, Presidential Personnel Officer.

Okay. Do you know if he participated in any discussions about the election?

I do not.

Did you ever talk to him about the election?

I did not.

Do you remember him saying or hearing about conversations where he talked about what the White House should do to change the outcome of the election?

Not to me he didn't.

Okay. And you don't remember hearing others talking about this in the White House?

No.

Now, there are reports -- again, I can assume the answer, but I don't want to do that -- reports indicate that he texted, John McEntee texted Vice President Pence's team a memo outlining Vice President Pence's power to count only certain electoral votes.

Are you aware of this memo that he sent around?

No. And, honestly, you know, I don't -- no, I'm not. But I'm surprised he would send a memo.

Why do you say that?

I was just -- because any time you send a memo, it's Presidential records, you know. And it's one of those things you send it out there and why -- you know, okay, if he did it, he did. But no, I don't.