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39 So it's been recorded that John Eastman met with Vice President Pence, Marc Short, and Greg Jacob between January 3rd and January 5th.

Are you aware of any of those meetings?

No, I'm not.

Okay. Now, John Eastman had a legal theory, which it sounds like you've heard about from the press after the events of January 6th. Do you remember anybody in the White House talking about those legal theories before January 6th?

I do not.

Okay. And those legal theories being that the Vice President had the authority to delay the counting of the electoral votes on January 6th, for example?

I don't -- I never remember that at all. I never heard of that at all.

Okay. Another part of the theory being that the Vice President had the authority as President of the Senate to not count certain electoral votes from States that arguably, allegedly, there was widespread fraud.

Uh-huh.

Did you remember anybody talking about that --

Nope. I did not.

Okay. Now, there are reports that John McEntee had a role in setting up kind of an outside legal team related to the Vice President's authority.

Are you familiar with John McEntee?

I know John very well.

Okay. Who is he?

Well, he was originally -- when we started in 2016-17, he was the bagman, basically, the personal assistant to the President of the United States. And he would always carry the -- when he was called the bagman, he would always carry the suitcases