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-- about that?

No.

Mr. Coale. Is that from the book?

Mr. . That is from the book, yeah.

Mr. Coale. Okay. Thank you.

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And when you say that, do you not remember it? Could it have happened and you just don't remember it or do you think it actually did not happen?

I don't -- I was -- if it was done, it was not done in my presence. And I don't want to speak for Pat or the President, so I don't know if it was said or not.

Okay. So one of the reports about this is that the President told the people in this meeting, allegedly you were one of them, according to this reporting, understanding this is reporting, but the President said, "Tell the Vice President he needs to send the votes back, he needs to do it," meaning sending them back to the States. To which Pat Cipollone said, "You can't do that. It's not a constitutional role for him."

Do you remember any conversation like that?

No. No, I don't.

Okay.

Mr. Coale. Excuse me. I didn't hear. Who said that, according to the reporting?

Mr. . That Pat Cipollone said that during this meeting.

Mr. Coale. He said that the Vice President could do that whatever?

Mr. . The Vice President cannot do.

Mr. Coale. And who said he could?