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20 No,. The only one who had that status was Marc Short, the Chief of Staff.

You're anticipating my question. My understanding is that Short -- Mr. Short -- had a --

Yeah, but that was unusual because I was the -- well, there was, normally speaking -- and I have to go back to the transition days when we decided to break out who were the APs and the DAPs and the SAPs. That the Vice President was authorized -- not authorized -- was given one. And that was the Chief of Staff.

That's the reason why the President, when they made that decision to make me the NSA to the VP, he was very specific --

I see.

-- as was John Kelly, who was the Chief of Staff at the time, that I would maintain the AP role. So there was two of us.

Got you. So the default is, the Office of the Vice President has one AP, typically the Chief of Staff.

Uh-huh. Yes.

Then you were the second on the OVP staff who also had AP designation? And that was because of your prior relationship advising the President directly?

That is correct.

Mr. Got you. Okay. Thank you.

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So for tweets you gave the example of --

I'm sorry, ?

For tweets, you gave me the example of Dan Scavino and others in a collaborative process might work with the President. Do you know who would actually