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83 I don't believe we—he and I had discussions regarding transition, my role in the transition.

At any time?

With the President, I don't believe so. But I will add—thank you—we were directed by Chief of Staff Meadows to conduct an ordered and full-scale transition to the Biden transition team, so that's what we did.

When was that order given?

On or about the time the GSA memo came in permitting us to begin that process lawfully, is my understanding of it. And that GSA memo came in on November 23rd, right before Thanksgiving of 2020.

Got it. Before—

Mr. Sofer. Can we take a break again? Sorry. You can do—if you want to finish something, that's great.


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Sure, just before we move off this. I know when you walked through your prior career, did you have—what management experience did you have prior to getting—taking on the role of chief of staff of the Army?

Sure. Yeah. So I had some management experience in my time as a public defender, at the Department of Justice, and at JSOC. Specifically, I had a large, what I can say in this setting is, number of lines of effort that would report in to the unit I was serving at and the role I was serving at to perform the mission set of that unit. There was a—the large unit. And then I came to the White House, and I believe at the time I was the director of the largest directorate on the National Security Council, so I had the largest number of directors under me.

Which means what, like how many people are we talking about reported to