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55 there was the crowd gathering. Was that had they breached at that point? What—

I'm not sure.

When you look back, though, what would trigger that first call to Mark Meadows?

As I said, my best guess, my best estimate is probably I saw what was going down. I was with the Chairman and the Acting Secretary of Defense, amongst other people. And we were figuring out what DOD's responsibilities should be on that day and who should be in touch with who. So they probably said to me, "Let's make sure the White House"—and I have an open line of communication.

And what was the response from Mark Meadows?

I believe it was, "Yeah, thanks for the call. Let us," the White House, "know if you need anything." And I said the same.

And I said, "We have a number of other calls to make," as calls began coming in from congressional leadership and other interagencies, so I don't believe it was an extensive phone call.

What was the the tone of that call?

I'm sorry?

What was the tone of that call? When you see the crowd going towards the Capitol, whether the breach had happened or not, was there a sense of urgency in the call?

I'm not sure. I don't recall anyone yelling, if that's what you're asking. I think we relayed the information, and he relayed it to me, and we moved on.

So you say to Mark Meadows, "Let us know if you need anything," and he says back, "Let us know if you need anything"? Sorry, I got a little confused there as to—

My habit—because I don't have an independent memory of that phone