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Well, the timeline's not just your memory, though, right? Without the timeline, do you remember when you first learned on that day that there was a breach at the Capitol?

I believe late morning, early afternoon, from the best of my memory, is that on TV—and there's TVs on at the Department of Defense, and there was a showing by video cameras that people were marching towards the Capitol. So whenever that was, in and around that time is when we saw it.

"We" meaning who?

Whoever was in the Office of the Secretary of Defense where the TVs were on.

And do you remember listening to President Trump's speech that day?

I don't. I believe I was working on a number of other things.

Did you speak to anybody—after you saw the march up to the Capitol, what happened next, from your memory?

As best as I can recall, there was a lot of phone call activity that started happening. We tried to divvy up the work as best we could to be responsive to Congress, to public affairs, to the White House.

So I don't have an independent memory of exactly everybody that I did talk to, but, as chief of staff of the Department of Defense, I know I reached out to the chief of staff of the White House at some point during that day.

Okay. Do you remember—Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, do you remember how many times you spoke to him?

It was at least once, and it was, from my memory, maybe up to three times,