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19 each other for some years. I don't know exactly how long. We have crossed paths. Acting Secretary Miller was an Army Special Forces officer. I served in JSOC. He served in some elite units other than that, and we've had some crossover on counterterrorism and national security matters going back years, as best as I can recall sitting here today, without having looked at any of the documents to help.

Is it—while you were at NSC, was Chris Miller the head of NCTC? Does that sound right?

Sorry.

[Discussion off the record.]

The Witness. Yeah, no, that's a good point. Thank you. Okay. So, okay, that timeline is, as best I recall, and, again, I don't recall seeing those—that material in the documents we reviewed to prepare today, so I'm going to guess as best I can.

When I first got to the NSC, I believe Chris was the senior director for counterterrorism. And, if I recall, he was transitioning out to become the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations in Low-Intensity Conflict at the Pentagon. And I was transitioning into that seat, so he and I had a bunch of crossover in those roles.

And then, when I got there, within a couple months, I believe, he and I were both the senior director for counterterrorism while he transitioned out. And then he later became the director of the National Counterterrorism Center at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.


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Okay.

Yeah.

Okay. Thanks for that. I want to spend the first part of our interview here