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105 —is if you produced it, but you failed to produce it. And I want the record to be abundantly clear you're asking me about a document you say exists based on a book that I don't know and haven't seen.

Well, it's not just a book, Mr. Patel, but let me just—

No, don't cut me off. Let me finish my answer. I want the record to be abundantly clear what you're trying to do is say I may or may not have had my hands on an order that may or may have never existed. If you can show it to me, I can answer the question better. I'm doing the best to answer the question from the memory I have about something that happened over 1 year ago.

So, if you have other lines of question—we can do this, but if you want to talk about the truth about what happened on January 6th, as is your directive, or do you want to talk about Afghanistan and Somalia, you choose. But we're leaving at 4 o'clock because my counsel has a flight to catch.

Mr. Glabe. Let me just say two things for the record on this topic. One, we talk about the memo, a memo. I want the record to be clear that my—I want—I want the record to be clear that my client has testified that he was involved in many discussions about Afghanistan, including Afghanistan withdrawal, with General Milley and others, but doesn't have the specific recollection of the purported memo referenced in the Woodward book.

Two, I believe, and we can pause and go back—read back the record if we need to, I believe that improper or unlawful was originally your characterization, counsel, and that jogged my client's memory that he recalled Ambassador O'Brien, General Milley, and Acting Secretary of Defense Miller discussing something that they might have thought was improper or unlawful. I do not believe that it is my client's testimony that he has made a judgment as to whether this purported memo was unlawful or improper insofar