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64 We go up the steps of, like, I guess the south or, no, the northwest side. And—and we're doing chants that is common to Alex Jones' audience to get people's attention because there's music blaring. And, again, I'm in the state of, you know, I've worked this—I'm working through it, you know, with a therapist and stuff like that. But I'm in a state of, like, shock. Like, like, why are there vehicles on the Capitol Plaza? The cops told us there wouldn't be any vehicles. Why are there vehicles? Why is there loud music playing? Who the hell has a speaker that loud? Because on the Capitol, you're only allowed wound-up speaker, and this speaker's loud and it's playing, like, heavy metal music. It seems like something out of, like, Abu Ghraib.

I mean, it's just—it was just a, frankly, bizarre situation. And there's all these people who some of them think that that's where the rally is, and then other people who are just bystanders. And then some idiots, some real idiots, you know, some bad, nefarious people, I guess, you know, they're up at the front. But I don't see them. I never physically saw these people.

And then, so, we spend, I don't know, 5 to 15 minutes—I don't think it's 15—but 5 to 15 minutes getting people's attention so we can shove them down. This loudspeaker and these vehicles are interrupting our ability to take command of the crowd where we cannot take command of crowd and physically grabbing people and shoving them down the stairs. Okay. That's how desperate I was to deescalate this situation, me, Alex Jones and Owen Shroyer, all deescalating.

And—and, so, then we—so then we exit. And we start talking to people on, like, Lots 10, 11, 9, and 8 and trying—what happened before we got here? Were you here? And what we come—came to learn is that most of those people had never attended The Ellipse rally and heard Trump's speech. Most of those people, you know, certainly weren't at Lot 8.