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46 your group about your movement from The Ellipse to the Capitol?

Secret Service escorted us out. And so, you know, you know, I don't want to get in word games. But, you know, there was, you know, there was a decision made. It had to go this way. The reason why I said I don't know why whether it took 5 minutes or 15 minutes for Alex Jones and myself to decide when to leave is because what I was told was happening is we were basically negotiating how many people could exit, you know, with Secret Service. And so, you know, that conversation was handled on the Trump world side.

So that's about the logistics of exiting The Ellipse?

Yes.

Okay. Did you understand there to be any communication to you about the President's intention after he was done with his speech coming from either the President or Secret Service?

The—

The President.

The President's intention?

Correct. About whether to walk to the Capitol at that time.

You'd have—you'd have to ask him.

So did you know anything at that time about whether he would be coming with you or coming up to the Capitol later?

I'm not privy to any of the internal conversations that Trump had with Secret Service.


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This is actually a perfect segue. Can you go to page 170 on exhibit 26? And it's page 170. And this goes to point about whether President Trump