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33 But—so, I think what I was attempting to do here was to get a chief of staff of a member to talk to other staff in getting their physical presence to the morning rally prior to, again, a joint session that was supposed to start at, you know, 1:00 or whatever the Constitution provides.

Okay. So I'm more interested, though, in the actual POTUS wants force. How did you know that President Trump wanted force?

Well, I'd appreciate my words being repeated back to me with the context that I just gave them which is, you know, participation. So out in full force, you know, this is POTUS wants force. You know, you don't call the members of Congress to come out in forceful violence. That would be silly. Okay?

So if you're—if the question is actually, you know, how did I come to the understanding that the President wants as many Republican Members of Congress to watch the rally that he was going to speak at, I couldn't tell you. But it seems obvious in repeating it back to you.

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So just to be clear, you didn't hear specifically from anyone on the campaign or the White House that President Trump wanted force from the House Freedom Caucus?

Well, again, I just want to reiterate for the third time that force means coming out in full force. It's a common term used in events, in organizing, in sports, in all kinds of things—I say this with complete conviction—and that you don't call Members of Congress to come and watch a bunch of speeches and intend, you know, anything, you know, anything crazy, you know.

And so, I don't know how I came to this. If the committee could provide other