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217 It's possible.

Is Mr. Jones someone you would speak to on the phone, only in person, or what was the nature of the relationship?

Yeah, I would speak on the phone. I appeared on his show a few times. I could call a security guard if I couldn't get ahold of his head of security. I could call if I didn't get ahold of Alex.

Is that Tim Enlow?

I know his name is Tim.

Okay. And for the record, E-n-l-o-w.

And so what do you remember before January 6th about Mr. Jones telling you, if you do remember anything, about walking from the Ellipse to the Capitol? Do you remember him saying anything about that event?

No.

All right. So you've never heard it from his lips to you that he spoke with someone in the White House or Trump about him walking from the Ellipse to the Capitol?

I don't recall anything like that.

Okay. Now, are you aware that he said publicly that that happened, that he had—that he was told by Trump to walk from the Capitol—from the Ellipse to the Capitol?

I'm not aware of that. Alex is prone to exaggeration and/or could have been referencing Caroline Wren.

Understood. When it comes to Mr. Stone, do you know—he has said publicly that he was told, whether by Trump or the White House, that he was going to lead or be a part of leading the walk from the Ellipse to the Capitol. Are you aware that he said that publicly?