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191 What does that mean?

I forgot. He—Trump or the White House or Dan did something that ticked a lot of people off in my community. And, again, this isn't, I don't think, pertinent to January 6th at all. But this was years ago. And he—so we started a campaign to block Dan, to try to get at his ego.

Okay.

And I know that probably ticked him off.

So the last time you've actually spoken to Dan Scavino was in 2019.

I believe so.

Did you have his number in your phone?

No, I don't have his number that I recall.

All right. And Arthur Schwartz, is that someone you know?

I've had a few more interactions with Arthur Schwartz.

Did you communicate with him at all about January 6th?

No, I don't believe so.

So when you say you went out of your way to stay away from the White House, did you have anyone in the White House who could have invited you in to come by at that time?

Anyone of any influence can get a ticket at the—for a White House Christmas party.

Okay.

So that's what I mean by that.

But no one in particular that you had a connection with in the White House.

No, I mean, no. It would be like the broader—no.

Was it your perception that President Trump knew who you were?