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190 House politics. And I thought it would be a weird or bad look if I disagreed—there are several times when I publicly disagreed with the White House. And when you do that, I think you want to distance and you want your independence. You don't want someone to be able to call you and tell what you to do, and conversely you also don't want to be somebody's whipping boy.

And so I—they weren't paying me. So whenever I'm talking to a State legislator or someone, and saying this is the political fallout, I don't want anyone to think President Trump told this kid to come up and threaten me. I didn't want that to be perceived. So I made sure I didn't go to the White House Christmas party, you know, or anything like that.

Were you invited to the White House Christmas party?

No. But what happens is the White House throws several White House Christmas parties, and it's the last one. So if I wanted an invite, I could have got one.

You referred to Dan Scavino as Dan, by his first name. Do you know him?

We know of each other, you know. We've had positive interactions publicly and privately, and then publicly, I've disagreed with some of his techniques.

When what are the private interactions you've had with him?

It's documented I went to the White House and I believe it's 2019 for a social media summit, and I was in a room with a lot of people. And Dan was there, and I walked in late. And he said, Hey, Ali. And it was very positive. And there was a gentleman who had been blocked, I guess accidentally, by the President's account. And Dan unblocked him.

Okay. But did you ever have any other interaction with Dan Scavino other than the social media influencer event in 2019?

I think the other ones just, you know, remain public, you know.