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19 Anyway, I wanted to describe that microcosm event to you so that you could understand what would take place when we finally got into the rally. So we got through the Secret Service. They are running the metal detectors. We walked through a muddy field. We walked past the press. And then the VIP seating section I can't recall, but  I want to recall. I don't know when, because I went out and in several times, but there might have been a hold-up initially again, because people are trying to decide is this the Stop the Steal event? Is this the Women for America First? Is this a Trump event? Is this a TP USA event? You know, and this is a lot of egos and personalities.

Anyway, as we make it through there, I immediately make a B line towards the front to see if there's a seating chart, because the seats that you can immediately see there is no seating chart. When we walk up there we finally see a seating chart, and I'm really happy with my seat, obviously. You know, and then I find Caroline Wren to thank her. And ask her when I'm speaking. And she said, don't get me started. And that's what I recall her saying. That's my best recollection. And I said, that's not an answer. And I actually need an answer because I'm going to go speak. And I haven't prepared a speech, okay? None of my speeches over the 60-plus days of Stop the Steal, to my recollection, were prepared, none of them, okay. And the Ellipse wasn't going to be any different. And because I wanted more people to speak from the Stop the Steal coalition I actually was going to take 3 to 5 minutes.

So then I'm informed that the police were called on Caroline Wren by Tyler Kramer, and this is—you guys haven't asked this, and my lawyer is probably, like, what are you doing, but I'm thinking, this is kind of a brain fart moment. This is a Trump campaign official, wearing Trump gear, who is the only reason this event exists, and has done great work, and has been a peacemaker, and delivered on the goods. She