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138 participating—for whatever reason, they were ignorantly participating in being in areas that they had no business in.

So, in the lead up to January 6th, you were trying to minimize "stop the steal's" involvement to have people dispersed. Correct?

I wanted to share—I definitely wanted, you know, as full a crowd as we could have. And, as I understood it—again, my consultant is telling me sometimes you can have more people, and sometimes the cops will give you a warning, but they won't just tell you to disperse without a warning. And that is what I'm aware the norms are, and I just thumbs-up that.

But, on January 6th, you're not telling people to disperse onto various lots. You're telling them to go to your event on Lot 8. That's correct? Right?

I'd refer you to my answer before my last answer, which is that it happens in two different sections. When I first see the conflict, and what I'm trying to do is get everyone over to Lot 8 because I ignorantly believe that, even though this is a little collapse of civil authority, we'll still be able to have our event. When I run into the U.S. Capitol Police officer or I don't know if he was the U.S. Capitol Police or the D.C. Metro, but I talked to a gentleman on the north side. He also says, "Go that way, go that way, go to the east and north." So he's also—the cop is reiterating what we've just reiterated, that makes me feel good. When I crossed the corner on to the east side and I am expecting a peaceful people in my stage and instead what I see is people on the plaza, people on the grounds, people on the Capitol, then I realize, oh, it wasn't just the west side that had essentially collapsed, but the east side had collapsed. I wasn't aware of that. Then it was, like, tell people to go to Lot 8 because it is the farthest point away from the physical building.

Did you ever file any other permits, and let's just cabin it between November