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113 Okay. Did he ever talk about lawyers who weren't making arguments that they should be or not in a way that he felt was effective?

No, I have no knowledge of that.

Did he ever say how you all could deliver any sart of message in a more effective way than lawyers?

No.

So it sounds like you don't really know what he's referring to here with "lawyers who failed to explain it."

No. I mean, as you can see, I also never responded to these messages, so—

And a little bit further down, so Madi, Madison Crawley responds, "Copy."

And then Michael Brown responds, "We're gonna be lobbyists. Woot."

Do you know what he means by "lobbyists"?

No, I don't. I mean, I think that was partially, you know, exaggerating, jokingly. But, again, you'd have to ask him for what he meant. That's at least how I interpret this message reading it now. I don't know what he meant. That's something for him.

Did you ever ask him what he meant by, "We're gonna be lobbyists," what that meant?

No.

Do you recall him saying that other times, that you all were going ta be lobbyists?

No.

If you turn the page to Bates 1502, at—so November 30th, 2020, 7:53 a.m., Chelsea Barnett writes, "Got it." And then Michael Brown responds, "Waiting to hear from Roman. But let's be ready."