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86 change; and, if that happens, Steve would end up in the seat, and Steve would have no idea what's going on. So I felt that, although DAG Rosen and I were keeping this close hold, that Steve needed to know what was going on in case that developed.

Well, let me stop there and see, Ms. Cheney, if you have any questions about this series of events.

Ms. Cheney. I don't. Thank you.


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You know, Greg, I would like to keep going a little bit longer, if that's okay.

Mr. Donoghue, are you good? I am getting closer to the end. But I—maybe I thought I might do another couple of meetings and stop before we get to the January 3rd White House meeting, and maybe, at that point, we'll take a lunch break. But, if you are comfortable, I would like to keep going for a little while longer before we stop.

I'm fine. I would like to get through as much as this as we can.

I appreciate that. All right. Well, then, let's turn then to the White House meeting that happens the next day, December the 29th. That's another meeting in which you took notes. This is not a meeting with the President; this is a meeting with the chief of staff. And, well, you tell us. Is there a meeting at the White House that you attend on December the 29th?

Yes. It was in the Chief of Staff's Office. That's the only time I have been to the Chief of Staff's Office. I think it was in the afternoon. I don't remember, specifically. But we went over there. DAG Rosen and I went over there, and Steve Engel was also over there. I think Steve met us over at the White House. He didn't travel with us. But we all sat in the Chief of Staff's Office. We had a number of things to discuss, some of which related to the election, some of which did not, some of which just related to normal administrative or, I should say, administration transition matters.