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66 things. And that's been done in public, unlike the DOJ investigations." Because we've told him, look, there are things that are not public; that doesn't mean we're not doing our job.

Then, in Nevada, he made some reference to Nevada and said "forensic accounting shows we won by 250,000 votes."

Then he mentioned someone named "Mark Martin." He said he was a North Carolina Supreme Court justice. He's "retired." He's a real "scholar." He knows about this stuff.

And then he made a final comment about "'ballot drops' changed the election." He'd referenced this a number of times, that at 3 o'clock in the morning a whole bunch of ballots showed up in various swing States disproportionately in favor of Vice President Biden and that changed the outcome of the election.

All right.

How did the call end?

It ran about 90 minutes or so after I was on, and then we sort of left it at that. The President made his points, we responded, and that was that.

I am just curious, Mr. Donoghue, about how you felt about this. You get off the phone call after 90 minutes with the President going through the allegations that you've just described. What was your overall reaction?

I actually felt that, you know, in some way, it was a good opportunity to be able to say to him directly that we had done our job, we had looked at certain things, and that the information that he was being given was not true.

Because it was clear to me that a number of people had the President's ear. They were feeding him information. They were telling him things like, "This is obvious fraud. The Department's not doing its job. The Department's dropping the ball."