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I see. Okay. Anything else about that meeting that you recall?

Again, it's difficult. There were a number of meetings, so I don't want to mix them in my mind. But the core of that meeting, that discussion, was certainly Antrim County. And we were able to say to the President, we should know in a few days. And that satisfied him, and we left.

All right. I see.

All right. I just have a couple more questions about Mr. Barr before he resigned. How did you hear about Attorney General Barr's decision to resign? Did you hear about it from him or from some other source?

The actual decision to resign that day I heard about from another source. I wasn't surprised, obviously. There was clearly tension between the Attorney General and the President. You know, it had become sort of a running issue and a running joke in some ways. Every time he returned from the White House, I asked him if he was still the Attorney General. So—

Tell me more about that tension. What was the heart of it? Was is it election-related?

I didn't ask the Attorney General. Again, most of this was publicly reported, and so, you know, we see the papers like everyone else. He was clearly frustrated. And it wasn't for me to pry into what was discussed or how it was discussed or anything like that, but there was clearly tension.

And so, when he went over there on the 14th, we had our regular 9:00 a.m. meeting with him that morning. He did say something about, you know, well, maybe by