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24 Have none, I see, okay.

Mr. Schiff. I don't have any questions either at this point. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Schiff.

Mr. Raskin or Mrs. Murphy or Ms. Lofgren, anything from you?

Mrs. Murphy. Nothing here from Murphy, thank you.


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Okay. All right. Then, Mr. Donoghue, let me go ahead on to the next tab in your binder, which is exhibit 2. Now, a little bit after Attorney General Barr has issued his December 1st statement, an email exchange that you have with David Bowdich, who I believe at the time was the Deputy Director of the FBI. Do you remember this exchange?

Yes, I do.

All right. Does this reflect some of that tension that you described before between the Public Integrity Unit and the election—the ECB and the U.S. attorney or the FBI about authority to investigate specific allegations of election fraud?

Yes. This is one example of how that tension was playing out within the Department.

All right. If you go all the way back to the beginning of the email, the first page is an email from Corey Amundson probably—it looks like to someone—it's redacted, but it looks like someone in the FBI, where he is setting forth the ECB view that DAG should be essentially the gatekeeper for authorization of investigative activity. Is that right?

Yes, I think that's generally what he's saying.

And he says PIN does not concur in any overt investigative activity, including the proposed interviews, essentially saying that he doesn't think that there should be