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162 Right.

Now, at this time, it states, the second line there, "FBI will stand up SIOC."

That's—

So I'm wondering if you can explain, at 12:21, there was no current plan to set up a SIOC, and then at 4 o'clock, it appears there is a decision to set up the SIOC. What, if anything, had changed?

I don't know if it changed specifically in that window, because that's a DHS report that you're referencing, so there's probably a little bit of a time lag on their information.

But, initially, the FBI did not intend to stand up the SIOC. They felt that this was, as far as D.C. was concerned, a single city event and that we already had two command posts in the city, maybe three depending on how you look at it, and that there was not going to be a need to stand up the SIOC.

However, again, in an abundance of caution, Acting AG Rosen said, "You know what? Talk to Dave," meaning Dave Bowdich. "I really think we should be standing up the SIOC. Talk to Dave about that."

And I did. And I emphasized for him the AG's concern. We wanted to make sure that we did everything, even if we were acting in an abundance of caution. And he said, "Fine, we'll stand up the SIOC then."

So the decision was made to stand up the SIOC either on the 4th or prior to that, but we did stand up the SIOC before January 6th.

It looks like exhibit 37 reflects Mr. Bowdich's directions of setting up the SIOC. That's Monday, January 4th, at 9:19 p.m. Is that right?

Yes. Yeah. So the email went out that night, and the SIOC was operational the next day, Tuesday, the 5th.