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 in the United States because of the killing of women, children and the elderly. The Koran forbids such killings.

Detainee (through translator): True, but it was five days later, through the news.

Designated Military Officer: (4.g) The detainee did not consider the United States an enemy, although he acknowledged that he believes the United States policy regarding the conflict between Israel and Palestine is wrong.

Detainee (through translator): True.

Presiding Officer: We will take a brief recess to escort the observers out.

The Board recessed at 1511 hours and reconvened at 1518.

Presiding Officer: Before we resume, I want to make sure that you had enough water and that you are ready to talk again.

Detainee (through translator): Yes.

Presiding Officer: The Board Members will ask you more questions after which you will have a chance to make a statement.

Presiding Officer: You decided to join a lesser jihad, would you agree it was a lesser jihad?

Detainee (through translator): It is not a lesser jihad, it is a jihad. However, the reward is not as important.

Presiding Officer: When I think of jihad, I think of a greater jihad which is an internal struggle, the struggle to control and to submit.

Detainee (through translator): I do not understand.

Presiding Officer: The struggle that is inside me is more significant than whatever physical struggle I fight because I must submit; I must acknowledge that God is the Almighty.

Detainee (through translator): In terms of doing good or bad?

Presiding Officer: Yes.

Detainee (through translator): Yes, this is the greater jihad.