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Rh Mr. . Because you could not get one without the other; is that it?

Mr, Apves, That is right.

Mr. . That was a local wholesaler?

Mr. Avven. We call them distributor.

Mr. . In Minneapolis?

Mr. Avver. In St. Paul,

Mr. . Now, as a result of this the city council passed what kind of resolution?

My. Arrer. Banning sale of obscene and indecent Hteratine, The State passed a resolution.

Mr. . That is the State Association of Pharmacists?

Mv. AverL. Yes.

The. May the Chair interrupt counsel to announce the arrival of the Honorable B.D. Fulton, member of the House of Com- mons of our great naghbor to the north, the Dominion of Canacla.

Mr. ¥ ulton, we welcome you here, and in due time we will have your story before the subcommittee, It is a great privileze to have you here.

Mr. Fu.rox. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Lam very gla ta be here.

The. All right, Counsel, you may proceed.

Mr. . That is one method of proof, 1 gather, that tie-in sales with crime and hor ror comics do exist!

Mr. Appen. Tie-in sales with what they want to send you is definitely proved, I believe. _

Mr. . Have you any suggestions as to how those tie-in sales can be avoided?

Mr Avres. Ihave made an agreement with the other company who who brought in a hist, They allowed me to pick up what I would accept. They will send me according to thei record as many as 1 need to cover my sales,

Mr. . How dio you do that? Do you do that once a month or once a week!

Myr, Arren. This is alter a number of years of wrangling; I told a either to do that or I would have to throw out the magazines, So the American News came in with 2 list of approxinately 80 maga- zines. I acceyted all but 17.

The. You say the American News?

SMO: Avven, The American News. ‘Phe Jtinnesota News is the local branch,

Mr. . The other company was what?

Mr, Arven, The other company never came around. ‘They would not listen to me on that basis, That was the St. Paul News.

Mr. . You ave now ordering magazines, a namber of maga- zines, solely on title rather than content? You know the magazines ?

Mr, Arren. That is right.

Mr. . I have no other AUESHIO MS.

The. Senator Hennings?

Senator Hennives. I have no questions, Mr. Chairman,

The. I have no questions.

T want to thank you for your presence here this morning.

Mr. . Mr. Chairman, he has some documents which he wants to leave with us, the invoices. May we have those for the record?