Author talk:Mary Spencer Warren

= sources =


 * https://www.leighlives.co.uk/about1-c12kq MARY SPENCER WARREN, HEAVEN FOREFEND, A WOMAN ON THE TOWN COUNCIL
 * https://www.fontainesauction.com/auction-lot/74-glass-slides-mary-spencer-warren_48240E69AC Mary Spencer Warren. Queen Victoria era reporter and photographer Mary Spencer Warren, photographer to the Royal Family (England, United Kingdom, Britain) is said to have been the first woman honored to have photographed the British royal family
 * https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/category/newspapers?keyword=%22mary%20spencer%20warren%22&sortBy=dateDesc&startPos=0 articles that span from mid 1890s to mid 1910s

census
Name 	Mary Spencer Warren Age in 1911 	48 Relation to Head 	Head Gender 	Female Birth Place 	Northampton Town Civil parish 	Leigh Country 	England Street Address 	22 Avenue Rd, Seacroft, Leigh On Sea, Essex Marital Status 	Single Occupation 	Authoress & Journalist Registration District Number 	195 Sub-registration district 	Prittlewell ED, institution, or vessel 	07 Piece 	10119 Household Members (Name) 	Age 	Relationship Mary Spencer Warren 	48 	Head Ellen Murrell Hammond	40 	Boarder Florence Amelia Patten	46 	Servant
 * 1911 England

Name 	Mary Spencer Warren Age 	38 Relation to Head 	Head Gender 	Female Occupation: Authoress Birth Place 	Northamptonshire, England Civil parish 	Leyton Ecclesiastical parish 	St John Town 	Leyton Registration district 	West Ham Sub-registration district 	North Leyton ED, institution, or vessel 	29 Neighbors Piece 	1620 Folio 	114 Page number 	39 Household schedule number 	217 Household Members (Name) 	Age 	Relationship Mary Spencer Warren 	38 	Head Eliza Warren	68 	Mother Helen Hannah	30 	Boarder
 * 1901 England

Mary Spencer Warren b. 1869 Northampton, Northamptonshire, England Rayleigh, Rochford, Essex
 * 1921 England (limited access)

death
Deaths Mar 1951 SPENCER-WARREN	 Mary	 96	 Thurrock	 4a	1194
 * FreeBMD

1939 register
Name 	Mary S Warren Gender 	Female Marital Status 	Single Birth Date 	8 Nov 1862 Residence Date 	1939 Residence Place 	Torquay, Devon, England Occupation 	Privatemeans Line Number 	43 Schedule Number 	20 Sub Schedule Number 	2 Enumeration District 	Wgex Borough 	Torquay Registration district 	272-2 Household Members (Name) 	Age May E Greenslade	83 Mary S Warren 	77

Not confirmed, though noting that known to be alive in 1939, and the only likely person, however, hyphenated names are particularly difficult to search due to how indexed, and how the local search engines are designed.


 * findmypast
 * Can see something in Essex that looks right, as always DoB has to be seen as indicative => Spencer-Warren > Mary > 1868 > 1939 Register > Benfleet U.D., Essex, England

Thoughts
Person is particularly hard to track down, and the only time that there is good data is during the period in which she is writing. Clearly she can write and has access to the royal family, though there is no explanation from any of that in the data available. It does not seem that we are dealing with someone born into the nobility space (taking boarder in 1911), yet has access and wrote at a higher level of literacy.

Mentions of her writing stop in the 1910s. Only newspaper references after that are slim and talk about her public duties, last mention found is 1939, when would have been abt 77 years of age.


 * 1921 census data (without full access) => Mary Spencer Warren > 1869 > Northampton, Northamptonshire, England > Rayleigh / Rochford / Essex

Tracking mother, Eliza Warren, didn't prove particularly helpful. Suspect death bw 1901-1911 as two anchors, though two deaths in period are not helpful. 1891 census shows person of this name and of the birthplace acting as a servant in Battersea in 891, nothing earlier except an 1851 census for a single woman, also a widowed housekeeper (servant), and to a privileged family.

One would have to question aspects of author's history and their story, when they just pop up and maintain a notability.

Satisfied that the death is correct naming and location, and will utilise the birth year as calculated in two census. The name itself, and historical aspects can easily be manufactured/morphed; greater reading and context needs to be done, and quite possibly no records will ever be available found. — billinghurst  sDrewth  06:31, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Newspaper mentions
— billinghurst  sDrewth  05:31, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Royal Gifts for Rayleigh > Date: Friday, Aug. 4, 1939 > Publication: Chelmsford Chronicle  Issue: 9125
 * Rayleigh > Friday, Sept. 20, 1929 > Publication: Chelmsford Chronicle  Issue: 8610
 * urban council nominations and named as a candidate
 * other mentions in Chelmsford Chronicle through 1930s: giving a talks to Women's Institute; unelected in council election, 1937; representative of Thundersley Conservative Association

1939 Register
First name(s) 	Mary County 	Essex Last name(s) 	Spencer-Warren Country 	England Birth date 	06 May 1868 E. D. letter code 	DBAR Birth day 	6 Schedule 	139 Birth month 	5 Schedule sub number 	1 Birth year 	1868 Archive reference 	RG101/1475D/014/8 Sex 	Female Piece number 	1475D Marital status 	Single Item number 	14 Occupation 	Journalist (Retired) Line number 	8 Address 	Rosemont Hart Road, Thundersley Place 	Benfleet U.D.